Early History of the Crommelin Family
(Part 2)

(...integrated information compiled from various sources including
Jacob Crommelin's 1712 account published by J.H. Scheffer)

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Pierre Crommelinck - His parents were Armand Crommelin and Susanna Jossedr de Wale. Born 1543 in Castle Ingelmunster near Kortrijk, Belgium. Died December 19, 1609 in Middelburg, The Netherlands. Married Catharina Cazier who was born about 1545 and died December 19, 1610.

Pierre, the eldest son of Armand Crommelin and Susanna Jossedr de Wale, lived at Cambray, France where he carried on a vast business in cambrics (fabrics, cloth and linen from Cambray). His brother, Jean Crommelin, the youngest son of their father Armand, was placed when a lad with his brother Pierre who brought him up in his business.

He sent his servants, equipped with English gold pieces and Spanish currency (pistoles), to Saint Quentin to buy cloth from Jacques de Semeries, Lord of Camas. Deliveries were made to him from there, and then he shipped these goods together with that from Cambray to Haarlem where it was bleached and pressed. From Haarlem it was shipped abroad, mainly to England.

After he had made a fortune over a considerable period of time in Cambray, the city was taken by the Spaniards whereupon Madam De Balagny, a distant princess of Cambray, urged Pierre Crommelin to leave since he could no longer enjoy freedom of conscience there. After unsuccessfully trying to settle in Saint Quentin (near his brother Jean who had married there), he moved back to Middelburg, in Zeeland, Holland where he died in 1609. He left his fortune to his two mute daughters, Maria and Catharina Crommelinck.

* Maria Crommelinck (Died January 5, 1613 or 1614 in Middelburg) married Nicolaes Rogiersz de Wael (Nicolas Dewal Rogiers of Haarlem) who died July 26, 1626 in Middelburg.
* Catharina Crommelinck married Guillaem Courtonne (William Courten) of London on December 22, 1596 in Middelburg, Holland. They died without children.

Maria (above) produced three daughters: Marie, twins Catherine and Marguerite, and a son Matieu who died young at Reims, while travelling. Marie married Jacques Pergens, Catherine married Jean Beck of Aix la Chapelle, and Marguerite married her cousin Pierre Deleau, son of nephew Jean or Robert Deleau above.

Of these three sisters remains only the knowledge that the children of Catherine and Mr. Beck left two sons named Jean and Nicolas and three daughters: Marguerite, Catherine and Sara.

The first one married Mr. Becker, deputy for life of the province of Zeeland in the Union of States (Staten Generaal), enacted in The Hague in 1708, without children. The second one married Mr. Aubert, agreeing to have no children. The third one married Jean Elfsdyck, councillor at the board of Flanders, who had one daughter. His widow married for the second time, Mr. Caw, nobleman of Domburgh and died without children.

Jean Beck’s son and his wife Gertruid Gyselvig had one child: Nicolas Beck who died young in Paris.

Sara Elfsdyck married Jean Evertsen, grandson of Evertsen, the fire marshal of Zeeland. They had one son. She married Mr. Doys, a colonel, for the second time. Catherine Beck, daughter of Jean Beck, married Mr. Hogendorp, receiver general of the Seven United Provinces who had sons and daughters.


Jehan Crommelinck - His parents were Armand Crommelin and Susanna Jossedr de Wale. Born 1560 in Castle Ingelmunster, Kortrijk. Died May 1, 1640 in St. Quentin. He married Marie de Semeries who was born 1580 in St. Quentin, France. Her father was Jacques de Semeries, Lord of Camas; her mother was Marie Vignier. They married December 17, 1595 in Castle Folembray and had 15 children. She died February 6, 1644 in St. Quentin.


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When a lad, Jean was placed with his brother, Pierre, in his prosperous textile business. Jean was often sent to St. Quentin with Pierre's servants to purchase Baptiste cloths by which occasion he made the acquaintance of Jacques de Semeries, Lord of Camas, a village situated between Genlis and Ham. Jacques gave Jean his daughter Marie in marriage which resulted in his establishing himself and remaining at St. Quentin.


Castle Folembray

The marriage of Jean Crommelinck and Marie de Semeries was celebrated at Folembray, a royal castle between Chauny and Coucy, and was honoured by the presence of Madame Catherine de France, sister of Henry IV, who was holding court there.

Upon the death of his father-in-law, Jean Crommelinck became Lord of Camas. He increased the textile business considerably around St. Quentin where he invited Dutch men and women to come (at their own expense) from the bleacheries in the neighbourhood of Haarlem. They established bleacheries according to the Dutch method.


Bleacheries in St. Quentin, late 1700

In Chauny he even had two bleacheries built called the 'large and small burie', and also a linen press. From here the goods were shipped to Paris and other cities of the kingdom or they were consumed in the war effort.

Jean sold the lordship and lands of Camas before his death, either on account of the troubles of the war or to remove any cause for jealousy which might arise between his eldest son, Pierre, and his brothers. Fifteen children were born during this marriage of whom six died, some at birth and some very young. The five who survived the deaths of their parents were Pierre (the eldest), Marie, Jean, Cathérine and Adrien (the youngest).

* Marie married Pierre Lombard, of London. Of them we have no knowledge of any posterity and we presume they had no children at all.

* Catherine first married Abraham Desdeuxvilles of London. They had one daughter called Elisabeth. She then married David Otghers with whom they had two sons. Elisabeth Desdeuxvilles married Mr. Mars who died soon after, but they had one son called Nicolas. Nicolas married a granddaughter of Oliver Cromwell, Lord Protector of England.

* Jean (see Page 3)

* Pierre Crommelin was born on 28 November 1596 at Castle Mouy-Saint-Far near St. Quentin. During his baptism he had the honour of being held by Madeleine Marie Catherine de France, sister of Henry IV of France. In July of 1621 he married Marie des Ormeaux, a native of Cambray (who died in 1650, age 51 or 52) and left him seven children: Jean, Pierre, Jacques, Samuel, Armand, Marie and Jeanne. He died an invalid in his eighties in the year 1680.

** Jean married Elisabeth Marin with whom he had three sons: Pierre, Jean and Marie. He died young as did his brother Pierre.
*** Pierre, the son of Elisabeth Marin returned to Saint Quentin. He married Marie Vauquet of Amiens but became widower in 1702 or 1703 with a son called Samuel who married Tabari de Guise. He also had a daughter called Elisabeth who married M. Philipy. Both brother and sister had children.
*** Jean, the son of aforesaid Marin died in his boyhood.
*** His sister Marie, married ... Nogared, clerk in Saint Quentin who died young and left a daughter who married ... Barbier, a clerk in Rouen. Her mother married for the second time ... Le Pestre by whom there were children.

** Pierre, son of Marie des Ormeaux, married in Nismes and had a son called Pierre who died in childhood.

** Jacques, son of Marie des Ormeaux, went to Holland in 1657 together with his cousin Adrien Crommelin, son of Josse. Jacques was permitted to marry Marie Cluyskens, a relative of one of the Deleau brothers. They had two sons: Hendrik (Henry) and Pierre. Jacques left Saint Quentin after the death of aforesaid Adrien and went to settle in Haarlem where he died. His widow married for the second time Jacques Froment; they had one daughter.
*** Henry lived in Haarlem since his boyhood
*** His brother Pierre married a Rotterman who died during childbirth of a son and a daughter while he had gone to the East Indies

** Samuel, son of Marie des Ormeaux married Madelaine Testart, daughter of Ciprien Testart and Marie Bossu. They lived past sixty years and died in Haarlem, their place of refuge. They left France in 1685 and in 1687, fleeing persecution. Of their twenty-two or twenty-three children the only ones who survived were Pierre-Samuel, Anne, Henriette, Henry-Samuel, Jeanne, Catherine, Alexandre, Eunice, Madelaine and Benjamin.
*** Pierre-Samuel first married Catherine Payon [or Pajon] of Orleans, who died in 1701 leaving three sons and three daughters of whom the eldest, Catherine, married Etienne Fizeau, partner with his father-in-law who married for the second time, ... by whom there are no children.

[Note: Etienne Fizeau may be the clerk who eventually used underhanded means to gain control of the original House of Crommelin. See Isaac Mathieu Crommelin's Memoirs.]


Pierre Samuel Crommelin paid the highest taxes too! Click to enlarge.

Pierre Samuel, born at Saint-Quentin in 1650 was a linen merchant near the city and was reputed to be the richest man of Vermandois. He was Protestant. There were more than 800 Protestants towards the middle of the 17th century, confined to the St. Thomas quarter which was reserved for them. Excluded from public functions they were treated with respect because the city owed to them all of its prosperity.

In 1685 the best workers fled to Holland and England. The tradesmen left the city taking their wealth and merchandise with them. Pierre Samuel also moved to Haarlem and his family dispersed all over Europe. Brother Benjamin became governor of Holland. Another branch, invited by the king of England, moved a flourishing industry to Ireland. Another one was a minister, then a teacher, and then became an ambassador.

Pierre Samuel eventually returned to Saint-Quentin.
* His elder son Samuel was born in 1683, became a linen merchant, judge-consul, mayor in 1731, and was re-elected in 1732 despite the ban on Huguenots, which speaks well for his popularity. He died there in 1775 at age 92, interred in the Saint-Jacques church.
* The second son of Pierre Samuel, Jean Henry died in 1725, interred in St. Thomas.
* His third son, Jacques Samuel, born in Holland in 1687, returned to Saint-Quentin with his family, having traveled all over Europe, speaking all the languages. He returned at the death of his father whose business was ruined by his dishonest associate to whom he had given his daughter in marriage. Jacques Samuel then built a new commercial house. He had six children of whom Isaac Mathieu, born in 1730 at Saint-Quentin is the last of the Crommelins in France.

*** Before the revocation of the Edict of Nantes, Anne married Samuel Louis Crommelin, her cousin from Germain, son of Louis Crommelin (mentioned hereafter) and Marie Mettayer who left France after one another in 1685. Fleeing the persecution they moved to Holland with one son and one daughter and chose to live in the city of Amsterdam where they were very unfortunate in several undertakings. They finally moved to Ireland. With support and protection of King William III, Louis laid the foundation of manufacturing Dutch and other linen in the city of Lisburn. There he gathered the whole family of his father and a number of French male and female refugees who prospered from day to day, by the grace of God. Samuel, had by his wife, Madeline Testart, 22 or 23 children, the eldest of whom was Anne Crommelin.
*** Henriette married her first cousin and linen merchant, Samuel Le Febure from Rouen, in Haarlem. They had several daughters but no son.

*** Henry Samuel first married his first cousin Catherine Maria Crommelin, daughter of Armand Crommelin, (his uncle mentioned below) and Emilie Hochepied. The second time he married Jacoba Sophia van Wickevoort by whom he had a son and daughters who lived in Haarlem.
**** Pieter Samuel's (son of Jacoba Sophia van Wickevoort) second wife was Josina Akersloot.
***** Jacob married Anna Petronella Gerlings.
****** Pieter Samuel married Amelia Marie Berg.
******* Jacob

*** Jeanne married Louis Mangin, merchant in Berlin. They had a boy and a girl.

MANGIN

The Mangin family were a well known Huguenot family in Ireland. They came from Lorraine where Etienne Mangin, the founder of the Protestant family was born and from there they moved to Meaux en Brie, ten miles from Paris. His grandson, Abraham, was known as the Merchant of Metz, and Abraham's son Louis (1647-1718) was also born in Metz. He became a banker and married Jeanne Crommelin, a first cousin of Louis Crommelin. About the time of the Revocation he moved to Berlin, but later went to Lisburn to join the Crommelin family in 1715. Louis Mangin died there three years later. His son, Paul, was a soldier who came to Lisburn and married his second wife, another refugee, Anne Henrietta d'Aulis De La Lande. In the baptismal record of Lisburn Cathedral, signed by Charles De La Valade, are two children of Paul Mangin, Alexander and Samuel Henry, in 1736. They later moved to Dublin, where Paul Margin died, but during his life time Captain Paul Margin always kept in touch with his Lisburn relations. Paul's daughter married Samuel Lewis Crommelin. His son, Samuel Henry Mangin (1736-1798) also became a soldier, becoming a Lieutenant Colonel in the 12th Dragoons. He also married a Huguenot, but their son left Ireland and all links with Lisburn were broken.


*** Catherine first married Mr. De Rollas, Swiss captain in the ... regiment. He was killed at the siege of Venlo. He left one son and a daughter. The second time she married ... Rouzier of Montpellier, merchant in Haarlem.
*** Alexander lived and did business in Hamburg. Later he moved to Lisburn in Ireland to be near his brother-in-law, Louis Crommelin. He married Madeleine de la Valade.

REV CHARLES DE LA VALADE

The Comte De La Valade held lands in Languedoc, but two of his sons were Pastors and so had to leave their country at the Revocation. They took with them their younger sister, Madeleine, and escaped to Holland. Their elder sister married James Du Bourdieu of Montpellier, and after his execution during the "Dragonade" escaped to England, carrying her baby son to Switzerland, Holland and London. When the De La Valade brothers were in Holland, Madeleine married Alexander Crommelin, a brother of Louis Crommelin, and when the Crommelins went to London, the De La Valades accompanied them. In 1699 the Rev. Charles De La Valade appears in the register of the Huguenot Church in Threadneedle Street as a Pastor, but in 1704 he was replaced by the Rev. Jacques Saurin, and it seems he came to Lisburn, again travelling with Alexander Crommelin. He was pastor of the French Church in Lisburn for over forty years. He made his will in 1755 and died in 1756. His brother succeeded him for a short time until he was followed by the Rev. Saumarez Du Bourdieu. Madam Charles De La Valade signed her will in 1759, after the death of her husband. Their daughter, Anne, married George Russell of Lisburn and is thought to have descendants. The Rev.Charles De La Valade seems to have dropped the prefix De, because on the lease of a tenement on the east side of the Market Place from the Marquis of Hertford (it would appear to be one of the houses with its front to the Market Square and its back to the Cathedral), his signature is Charles La Valade. Further signatures of this name all omit the 'De', such as Alan La Valade, who was a godfather in 1733. It is possible that this was the un-named brother, who had a family. In the index of wills, Charles La Valade, 1755-1827, is noted, and in the marriage bonds of Down and Connor and Dromore are the names Peter La Valade and Catherine Durry in 1793. There is more evidence of this family living near Lisburn and Moira, and some of their relations live in Norfolk.
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*** Eunice married Paul Bion from Rochelle, and in 1711 he left several children. He lived in Amsterdam.
*** Madelaine married Jean Fizeau, merchant in Amsterdam. They had several sons and daughters. Together with his wife, Jean Fizeau was naturalized in Amsterdam, 31 December 1709. He became member of the Waalse Gemeente in Amsterdam on 15 October 1702, freeman of Amsterdam 14 Nov. 1702.
*** Benjamin went into the army followed by his brother-in-law, De Rollas. After a few years of military training and giving proof of his heroism and capability, the nobility of the State promoted him to Captain in the Blue Guards. He married Catherine Elisabeth Slecher, daughter and granddaughter of M. M. Slecher, receivers of the admiralty of Amsterdam.
**** Wigbold

** Armand, the son of Marie des Ormeaux married Emilie Hochepied and they settled in Haarlem merchandising linen. At death he left four daughters and a boy. The eldest, Emile married ... Tessemaker. Catherine and his cousin Henry were mentioned above. Ventie got married and the youngest died at the age of 10 or 12 years old. The boy, called Jean married a rich single heiress; they lived in Leiden and had no children.

** Marie, daughter of Marie des Ormeaux first married Jean Rondeau, banker in Paris who left her six girls and two boys at his death: Marie, widow of Mr. Duvidal, without children; Jeanne married Mr. Delas who left a son; Henriette married Mr. De Belmont. He died in Saint Quentin and left one son; Anne married Mr. Gline, aid receiver at Argenteuil near Paris, and both died without children; Madelaine married Samuel Vauquet, of Amiens, took refuge and settled in Amsterdam, blessed by God. She died during child birth; Marianne married Mr. De Gollancourt, lord of Gollancourt, a place near Ham. He was receiver at Saint Quentin before Mr. de Bellemont, and then he settled on his estate. He had no children. Jean married his first cousin Susanne Crommelin, daughter of Abraham Crommelin, named below, and of Marie Boileau; he settled in Saint Quentin in the linen business in which he earned a fortune; first he was salt tax collector and then of tobacco. They had several children, boys and girls. Pierre died in his boyhood. The second time, their mother married Pierre Cadelan; they had one daughter called Catherine, who married a very rich war veteran in Province or Languedoc.


Suzanne Crommelin, wife of Jean Rondeau
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** Jeanne, the daughter of Marie des Ormeaux, married Jacques Le Maistre who, because of his skill of assistant farmer, became one of the principal farmers. His wife died several years before him and was operated for stones in 1706 at age 78 and died of the operation. He left more than 1.5 million pounds clear to his children and grandchildren who are: Marie, wife of André Crommelin, his cousin, named below, to whom he left several children, boys and girls, at her death. Isaac, who died a few days after his father, left two boys by his first cousin, Judith Le Maistre; only one son of his daughter Madelaine, who had married Mr. De Guillereau, nobleman of Bleré.

* Adrien Crommelin, the last of the children of Jean Crommelin and Marie De Sémery, married Susanne Doublet on August 11, 1641 in Charenton. They lived in Saint Quentin off and on until their deaths. Their children were: Suzanne who married Marin Grotest, Lord Duchesnay in 1664 or 1665, a famous doctor in Orleans, to whom she left several sons and daughters at her death.

** Adrien married Marguerite Richard, widow of M. De l’Echelle, at advanced age. He died in 1706, in Mezière, a village not far from Saint Quentin and left two girls and a boy.

** Antoine died at advanced age in Lyon where he had settled.

** Pierre-Etienne married Francoise Signoret, in Lyon, where he had settled and was associated with his brother Antoine, mentioned earlier. He left her three boys and a girl at his death in Lausanne, Switzerland, to where he had fled because of religion, as follows:
*** Adrien, raised in Saint Quentin since his early age, married a daughter of M. Rohart, lawyer, with whom he had a son and a daughter. He was a linen merchant.
*** Pierre followed his mother to Switzerland and married ... in Geneva where he was a minister.
*** Marc-Antoine, not being very prosperous went to the East Indies at age 24 or 25 to search for prosperity. [The 'India' and, later, the 'English', 'Australia', 'New Zealand' and 'South Africa' lines of the Crommelin family spring from Marc Antoine!]

** Marie, daughter of Susanne Doublet, married Jean Pigou of Amiens in 1667 or 1668, where they lived until the revocation of the Edict of Nantes and fled to England where he died and left several children. The genealogical knowledge about them has not reached the writer, except that Anselme-Frédérick married Catherine Camin in 1709.

** Jeanne married François Ammonet (of London) in Paris in 1669 or thereabouts. They lived in Paris where they manufactured French lace. They became very wealthy in 1681 and fled to London, foreseeing the persecution. [The brother of François Ammonet, an elder in the Protestant enclave of Charenton, was imprisoned in the Bastille for his faith along with his wife 1686-87.] He died a few years later and left three daughters and great wealth which dissipated through losses and ruining undertakings by Jacques Dufay, her second husband to whom she left several children at her death. The names of the first one are Susanne, who married M. Grubert of Lyon, Jeanne who married M. Caille of Geneva, and Marte who married ... Andren.



[Source: Unedited documents of the Bastille - April 27, 1686]

** Anne-Marie married Isaac Milsonneau in the year ..., bailiff of Châtillon. He exercised that occupation with great honour and reputation until the revocation of the Edict of Nantes, after which he lived only a year or eight months and died in Paris. He left two boys and two girls: Louise, Isaac, André and Judith.
*** Louise married M. Mauclerc and had one daughter, who married his brother-in-law Isaac. The mentioned Lord Mauclerc and his family left France in 1709 and lived in Lausanne, Switzerland.
*** André died young during the war.

** André (Adrien?) [imprisoned in the Bastille for his faith], who lived in Paris at the residence of his brother-in-law, François Ammonet [who later went to London with his wife, Jeanne Crommelin, and family], succeeded in his flourishing French lace business and a few years later he became very wealthy. He married Marie Le Maitre, who left him several sons and daughters at her death. The eldest married the eldest son of Jérémie Burgeat and the next one married Jaques Ducarel, a banker in Paris. There were children of the elder.

** Jean, accordingly from Bersi, married Marie-Ester Foissin of Paris in 1687 or 1688, left her five children; Marie, Louise, Jean, Pierre and David, when he left his home in France to go to London, near the sisters of his wife. The latter two small innocent ones unfortunately drowned at Giffecourt, due to the negligence of a servant who had taken them on an outing. He died at home in Saint Quentin in 1703. There was a long process for guardianship of the remaining three children, which was ended by choice of the parents, implicated in that process, by a lawyer called Fouquier.